Legislature(1997 - 1998)

04/04/1997 10:04 AM Senate HES

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                    SB 148 PUBLIC LIBRARIES                                   
                                                                              
 Number 200                                                                    
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN WILKEN  noted that SB 146 would not be taken up today, but          
 would be before the committee on Wednesday.  Chairman Wilken                  
 announced that  SB 148  was the last order of business before the             
 committee.                                                                    
                                                                               
  MARY JACKSON , Staff to Senator Torgerson, informed the committee            
 that SB 148 is a companion to HB 197.  SB 148 establishes a                   
 definition of public library in order to provide a criteria for               
 funding libraries under existing grant programs.                              
                                                                               
  GEORGE SMITH , Deputy Director of the Division of Libraries,                 
 Archives & Museums, discussed the history of Alaska's support of              
 public libraries.  Mr. Smith noted that the $1 to $1 match of the             
 grant program has not been possible for a number of years, every              
 library receives the basic $5,000 grant.  The match has been                  
 prorated and in recent years, no more than $2,000 match has been              
 provided.  In the last three or four years, no library has received           
 more than $7,000.  Mr. Smith explained that about five years ago,             
 a number of libraries requested that a law defining a public                  
 library be developed.  SB 148 was developed through the work of               
 Public Library Directors of the 19 largest libraries in Alaska.               
 The legislation was also reviewed by the Education Subcommittee of            
 the Alaska Municipal League who would like to see SB 148 move                 
 forward.                                                                      
                                                                               
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 SB 148 addresses two major issues.  Firstly, SB 148 addresses some            
 administrative issues found in the following sections.  Section 6             
 specifies the minimum levels of service that a public library                 
 should provide to be eligible for a grant.  Section 5 provides a              
 structure for Library Boards if the community decides to have such.           
 Mr. Smith noted that many cities do not have such a board, rather             
 the city council acts in that capacity.  Section 2 requires                   
 nonprofit corporations that run public libraries to conduct board             
 meetings in public.  Of Alaska's 85 public libraries, 22 are                  
 operated by nonprofit corporations.  Section 6 allows nonprofits in           
 unorganized boroughs, outside of cities to qualify as a community             
 per the Department of Community & Regional Affairs definition of              
 community.                                                                    
                                                                               
 Secondly, SB 148 radically restructures the nature of the grant               
 program which is located in Section 3.  Currently, a community can            
 receive a $5,000 grant without any local effort.  There is a                  
 matching portion that does require local effort.  SB 148 specifies            
 that a library would not be eligible for a grant without local                
 effort at a minimum of $5,000.  The current law requires that the             
 match be in money, but SB 148 would allow in-kind service which               
 recognizes the efforts of volunteer services.  This would stabilize           
 many of the small libraries.  Mr. Smith acknowledged that a few               
 libraries at the lower end who have never contributed locally will            
 have to decide whether to contribute or close.  Based on libraries'           
 annual reports, between five and ten libraries will face a                    
 difficult question regarding whether to provide local effort.  On             
 the other hand, 15-20 libraries will fair better because of the in-           
 kind service.  Under SB 148 if there is ever more money for this              
 program, any amount available above $7,000 per library would be               
 distributed on a per capita basis.                                            
                                                                               
 Mr. Smith pointed out that Section 7 sunsets two public library               
 construction grant programs which no longer exist.  Mr. Smith noted           
 that the state library has been giving public library grants,                 
 interlibrary cooperation grants, and regional services grants. The            
 regional services grants never appeared in law, although those                
 grants have been functioning since the 1970s.  Sections 1 and 2               
 clarify that situation by recognizing regional services grants                
 which provides books by mail service.                                         
                                                                               
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  SENATOR LEMAN  referred to page 2, line 6 when asking if that                
 language would prevent libraries from charging shipping fees.                 
  GEORGE SMITH  said that the language would not prevent the charge of         
 transportation fees.  Across the country, a sizable interlibrary              
 loan fee has evolved and in addition there is a shipping cost.                
 SB 148 would merely eliminate the interlibrary loan fee and charge            
 only the shipping fee which all libraries in Alaska have done for             
 many years.                                                                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR LEMAN  asked if there was a standard methodology regarding           
 how in-kind services are valued.   GEORGE SMITH  said that this would         
 need to be addressed in regulation.  Mr. Smith believed that in-              
 kind service should be valued slightly under the level of a city              
 clerk in that particular region, but not less than $10 per hour.              
                                                                               
  SENATOR LEMAN  suggested that Mr. Smith consider a minimal cash              
 contribution from the community in order to help establish the                
 community's ownership of the library.  Senator Leman referred to              
 page 4, line 3 which refers to the items the library would provide            
 free of charge.  Senator Leman assumed that the library could                 
 charge fees for fines, copying, etc.   GEORGE SMITH  said that there          
 is no charge for a resident of the community to check out a book.             
 Mr. Smith noted that libraries with a data base service would be              
 allowed to charge a fee.                                                      
                                                                               
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  MOE MCGEE , Director of Anchorage Municipal Libraries, supported             
 SB 148.  Ms. McGee discussed the meetings that took place between             
 various library directors with state library staff in order to                
 draft public library law for Alaska.  This process resulted in a              
 closeness between the directors which will benefit future                     
 endeavors.  From the Anchorage perspective, Ms. McGee was pleased             
 with the per capita provisions beyond the basic grant.  Ms. McGee             
 appreciated the support of the state library in this process.                 
                                                                               
  GREG HILL , Fairbanks North Star Borough Library, informed the               
 committee of a report from the National Center for Education                  
 Statistics which reports that 44 percent of all U.S. households               
 used a public library last month.  The report also found that 65              
 percent of all U.S. households used a public library in the last              
 year.  Alaska ranks even higher; 56 percent of Alaskans used a                
 public library last month and 76 percent of Alaskans used a public            
 library last year.  Mr. Hill believed it time for legislation to              
 define public libraries to be used to lay the foundation for the              
 future.  SB 148 requires local commitment and provides an incentive           
 with the recognition of in-kind service.  Mr. Hill urged the                  
 passage of SB 148.                                                            
                                                                               
  PAUL BLAIR , testifying from Glennallen, informed the committee that         
 the Glennallen library was in an unincorporated borough with a                
 minimum of $5,000 grant.  Mr. Blair said that either way, the                 
 Glennallen library would be hurt.  Mr. Blair referred to the                  
 language in Section 2, subsection (b) stating " Only one library in          
 a city or unincorporated community is eligible for a public library           
 assistance grant during a fiscal year. "  Does that language apply           
 to an unincorporated borough with nine libraries or does that not             
 apply to an unincorporated borough?                                           
                                                                               
  GEORGE SMITH  explained that there could be any number of recognized         
 libraries within an unincorporated borough, the language only                 
 refers to within one community as defined by Community & Regional             
 Affairs.  If Community & Regional Affairs recognizes a community as           
 eligible for state grants, SB 148 would as well.                              
                                                                               
  PAUL BLAIR  indicated the need for more specific language on that            
 matter.   GEORGE SMITH  pointed out that the Community & Regional             
 Affairs law specifies that each viable community is separate and              
 eligible, although that is not mentioned in SB 148.                           
                                                                               
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  PAUL BLAIR  believed that the specified range of $5,000 to $7,000            
 for matching grants would hurt the small libraries such as in                 
 Glennallen.  Mr. Blair cited a case in Glennallen in which there              
 was a small in-kind base to draw from as well as greater utility              
 expenses; that would create difficulties matching grants greater              
 than $7,000.  Mr. Blair suggested that the low end of the range be            
 lowered and the high end be raised so as to consider the smaller              
 libraries.   GEORGE SMITH  noted that Glennallen is one of the more           
 stable smaller libraries which has had the maximum matching amount            
 for years.  SB 148 could actually help Glennallen, especially with            
 the in-kind matching allowed.  Mr. Smith agreed that a maximum of             
 more than $7,000 would be nice, but the reality is that there is a            
 limited amount of money available.                                            
                                                                               
  PAUL BLAIR  said that he was in favor of the general content of              
 SB 148.                                                                       
                                                                               
  JOYCE JENKINS , Director of the Petersburg Library, echoed the               
 comments regarding the time spent on this legislation.  The                   
 increased accountability for libraries through the definition are             
 important and need to be in law.  Ms. Jenkins commented that the              
 greatest difficulty was balancing the needs of the small and large            
 libraries which SB 148 achieves.  Ms. Jenkins encouraged the                  
 committee's support of SB 148.                                                
                                                                               
  SENATOR WARD  moved to report SB 148 out of committee with                   
 individual recommendations and accompanying fiscal notes.  Without            
 objection, it was so ordered.                                                 
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN WILKEN  asked if there was anything else to come before the         
 committee.                                                                    
                                                                               
  SENATOR ELLIS  inquired as to the progress of the sex offender               
 registration bill.   CHAIRMAN WILKEN  said that he would work on              
 that.  There being no further business before the committee, the              
 meeting was adjourned at 10:50 a.m.                                           

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